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This archive consists of interviews I have conducted with lesbian and queer-identified community leaders of all types responsible for meaningful cultural, political and social progress for lesbian and queer people in New York City from to today. The aim of these conversations is to assemble a lineage of lesbian and queer voices and to explore the ways in which lesbians and queer people have worked to seek out and create safe spaces in which friendship, love, intimacy and free expression can thrive.

So I started working more with the festivals and doing my own material at conferences and rallies and things like that.

There are people ordering dinner and there is the backroom, through a little hall, with restrooms on the left. Can you see it?

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Sidney was a friend of mine and is best known for Dylan. I had been born to Republicans and inwhen I realized that Reagan had gone against the ERA and against rioms rights, I woke up and started paying attention to politics. I was a heavy drinker and I was still drinking when I was going there as a customer but stopped shortly after.

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GS: Did you ever experience a bar raid Sandy? GS: Yeah. People were more relaxed about that. Some 'riot' - not!

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But, no. I just stopped updating and explained in the wtih that I froze it at Especially because I was trying to stay sober in these bars and everyone was so uptight.

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The owners of Three then bought a second club called Mary, Mary, which was another sort of theater club which opened during a cab strike and then burned down almost immediately. GS: Thanks.

It was a two-level club. Gwen Shockey: What was the first experience you ever had at a predominantly lesbian or nyd dominated space and what did it feel like to be there Sandy? GS: A huge motivator in doing this project was the lack of out lesbian representation I experienced as. When the owners closed Three, we all came out to the Hamptons and worked at a place owned by a woman named Vida Pernick, with whom I just talked to a few minutes ago.

SR: Well, it will be forty-four song collection called Risin' Song; and it will be just streaming. I was working two jobs a night. Image courtesy of Sandy Rapp.

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Wit It was much less stylized there. They were a couple that took the same name. I seemed to have a good ear for the piano and I come from a family in which one side was opera and the other side was a singing group. I think it was East Side. GS: How did you first start playing music?

Have you ever heard of Camp Sister Spirit in Mississippi? My partner, Anne Butler, worked in the upstairs bar, Jackie worked in the downstairs bar and I sang downstairs. We were also teaching the police cadets. You must be very young!

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Musician January 23,6pm By phone, New York to Florida Gwen Shockey: What was the first experience you ever had at a predominantly lesbian or queer dominated space and what did it feel like to be there Sandy? We wrote a show together. Pat and I went to Connecticut after we heard about it, so were not in town for the next two nights. SR: Before we go, here be info on the upcoming Stonewall You are offering such a generous gift of insight into the past for me and for generations of queer women and people to come.

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We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings witj the EU market. GS: What was it like to come out at that time?

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Somewhere we were ed by Alison Gold, a young divorcee who would one day leave the bar scene to make a very fine name for herself as author of two best-selling Anne Frank-related books. I went out to the Hamptons and became an activist. It was a place where many celebrities were comfortable, gay or not, just because people would sort of leave them alone.

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SR: We all need to stay alert and be reminded of our history. It was a very complicated life in those days.

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These bars were sort of mixed. I realized that some of them had no idea why the gay community might feel hostile towards them. I was at Chez Pat when Stonewall happened.

I have a song called Remember Rose: Song for Choice, and on the recording Bella Abzug, the late, great feminist congresswoman from New York, sings a guest vocal. GS: So much was happening in New York at that time with Civil Rights, the Feminist Movement and of course the Stonewall riots taking place that year — were you politically active when you were that young? That's why there were no burning cars, no smashed store windows, no looting, no knifings, in reality not a broken fingernail roomd less dripping blood or any killings.

It was really very difficult. Laughing You fly to Washington and then you fly to Birmingham and then someone drives you out into the middle of nowhere.

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The aim of these conversations is to assemble a lineage of lesbian and queer voices and to explore the ways in which lesbians and queer people have worked to seek out and create safe spaces in which friendship, love, intimacy and free expression can thrive. I would love to hear more about your music and how music played a part in your coming out and your experiences in the bars. It was mixed and a restaurant reviewed very favorably by Florence Fabricant and really quite something.

I think, vis a vis gay-positive attitudes, Mississippi was behind even the Midwest.

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